in other words

#79 Collaboration is the antidote to the poison

by Charlotte Burns
Jenna Gribbon's Couched (2020) is one of the works included in the Food Bank for New York City: Emergency Benefit Auction 2020 © Jenna Gribbon. Courtesy of the artist and Fredericks & Freiser, New York

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From acts of solidarity to new business models, many in the art world are teaming up during this pandemic to bolster the system and rethink its infrastructure. Joining us for today’s show are guests including financial journalist Felix Salmon; gallerists Sadie Coles of Sadie Coles HQ and Vanessa Carlos of Carlos/Ishikawa; artist Doron Langberg; culture and politics writer Marisa Mazria Katz; and nonprofit executives Carolyn Ramo of Artadia and Deana Haggag of United States Artists.

“We are all protecting our small castle or encampment and promoting our own content,” says Sadie Coles. “But actually, if you start reaching out to people, it is all about dialogue— and things develop from there.”

For more, tune in today.


Vanessa Carlos

director of Carlos/Ishikawa gallery and founder of Condo

Vanessa Carlos is the Director of Carlos/Ishikawa gallery in London, whose program focuses on international artists with wide-ranging, multidisciplinary and experimental practices. Artists represented by the gallery include Oscar Murillo, Korakrit Arunanondchai and Pilvi Takala. Carlos founded Condo in 2016, a project that takes its name from ‘condominium’ and is a large-scale collaborative exhibition of international galleries. Host galleries share their spaces with visiting galleries either by co-curating an exhibition together, or dividing their galleries and allocating spaces. The not-for-profit initiative encourages the evaluation of existing models, pooling resources and acting communally to propose an environment that is more conducive for experimental gallery exhibitions to take place internationally. The project was brought to New York in 2017 and will launch in Shanghai, Mexico City and São Paulo in 2018.

Sadie Coles

owner and founder, Sadie Coles HQ

Sadie Coles opened her London-based gallery in April 1997. The gallery focuses on presenting the work of established and emerging international artists. The inaugural exhibition by American painter John Currin took place in parallel to an off-site exhibition by British artist Sarah Lucas. This coupling established the international dimension of the gallery’s exhibition programme, as well as its programme of site-specific projects which have presented artists’ work in locations around London and abroad. The gallery’s current spaces at 62 Kingly Street and 1 Davies Street opened in 2013 and 2015 respectively. In recent years, the gallery has added artists Darren Bader, Alvaro Barrington, Alex Da Corte, Kati Heck, Yu Ji, Lawrence Lek, Helen Marten, Borna Sammak, Katja Seib, Martine Syms, and Jordan Wolfson to the roster. This is in addition to the continued representation of artists such as Sarah Lucas, Matthew Barney, Urs Fischer, John Currin, Ugo Rondinone, Elizabeth Peyton, Rudolf Stingel, and others. The gallery participates in about eight international fairs ever year and regularly publishes books on its artists.

Deana Haggag

president & CEO of United States Artists

Deana Haggag is the President & CEO of United States Artists, a national arts funding organization based in Chicago, IL. Before joining USA in February 2017, she was the Executive Director of The Contemporary, a nomadic and non-collecting art museum in Baltimore, MD, for four years. In addition to her leadership roles, Deana lectures extensively, consults on various art initiatives, contributes to cultural publications, and has taught at institutions such as Johns Hopkins University and Towson University. She is the Artistic Director of the 2020 Seattle Art Fair, and on the Board of Trustees of the Detroit Institute of Arts, the Artistic Director’s Council of Prospect.5, and the Advisory Council of Recess. She received her MFA in Curatorial Practice from the Maryland Institute College of Art and a BA from Rutgers University in Art History and Philosophy.

Marisa Mazria Katz

journalist and editor

Marisa is a New York-based writer who has covered culture and politics in cities that include Casablanca, Kabul, Port-au-Prince and Istanbul. Her work has been featured on NPR and several publications, including the Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, Vogue and The New York Times. Marisa was the founding editor of Creative Time Reports, a website from the public art non-profit Creative Time, which co-published artists’ work with The Guardian, Al Jazeera America, Foreign Policy, The New Yorker, The Intercept, and many more. Marisa is the Editorial Director of Eyebeam, where she oversees its Center for the Future of Journalism.

Doron Langberg


Born in 1985 in Yokneam Moshava, Israel, Doron Langberg currently lives and works in New York. He received his MFA from Yale University School of Art (2012), holds a BFA from the University of Pennsylvania (2010), a Certificate from PAFA (2010) and attended the Yale Summer School of Music and Art, Norfolk (2009). Langberg has attended the Sharpe Walentas Studio Program, Yaddo artist residency, and the Queer Art Mentorship Program and is currently at the EFA Studio Program . He is the recipient of the American Academy of Arts and Letters award for painting, the Elizabeth Greenshields Foundation Grant, and the Yale Schoelkopf Travel Prize. His work was shown at the LSU museum, American Academy of Arts and Letters, Leslei Lohman Museum, The PAFA Museum, Yossi Milo Gallery, Perrotin Gallery, Marianne Boesky Gallery, and several university art galleries. Langberg’s work was reviewed in Art in America, Frieze Magazine, The Brooklyn Rail, Hyperallergic, ArtCritical, and GAYLETTER, and it is in the collection of the PAFA and RISD Museum.

Carolyn Ramo

executive director, Artadia

Carolyn Ramo is the executive director of the non-profit arts organization Artadia. Since assuming the role in 2012, Ramo has helped the organization provide curator-driven grants and other impactful programs to visual artists in cities across the United States and outside of market centers.

Before joining Artadia, Ramo was a partner at Taxter & Sepngemann, a contemporary art gallery that focused on emerging artist. Prior to that, she worked at David Zwirner and Nicole Klagsbrun and the Whitney Museum of American Art.

Felix Salmon

chief financial correspondent at Axios

Felix Salmon, chief financial correspondent at Axios, is an award-winning writer, editor, and podcaster. The host of the weekly Slate Money podcast, he was previously the finance blogger at Roubini Global Economics, Condé Nast Portfolio, and Reuters. Most recently, he was a senior editor at Fusion. He has written for multiple publications including Wired, Slate, New York, The New York Times, and the Financial Times. His Wired cover story on the Gaussian copula function was later turned into a tattoo.

Charlotte Burns

executive editor of In Other Words

Charlotte Burns is the editor of In Other Words, our weekly newsletters and podcasts. She was previously the US news and market editor for The Art Newspaper, as well as a regular correspondent for publications such as the Guardian and Monocle. Previously, she worked with the London dealer Anthony d’Offay on special projects. For several years, she was a consultant at the cultural communications agency, Bolton & Quinn. She also worked at Hauser & Wirth in London.

Burns received a Masters degree (with Merit) from the Courtauld Institute in Art and Cultural Politics in Germany, 1890-1945, as well as a first-class B.A. honors degree in English and History of Art from Birmingham University. She moved to New York in 2010.

To find out more about the collaborations mentioned in this episode:

Artists Relief

Food Bank For New York City: Emergency Benefit Auction 2020

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